Wintec All Purpose Saddle, black, older style (no CAIR or interchangeable gullets); girth and stirrups are NOT included.  Wintec Webbers shown in pictures are included.  Used condition with signs of normal wear and tear.  Used but not abused.   This saddle fit great on my high withered Arabian, but not at all on my boulder shoulder Missouri fox trotter.  17" seat (equivalent to 15" western seat). Great light weight saddle to just throw on and go!